Yes it worked. Thank you, thank you, thank you, so much. Your sight means the world to me. I do not know where I would be without it. I just cannot thank you enough. Thank you again.
LITS
i've deployed a fix for people affected by sign-in issues caused by having multiple accounts associated with the same email address.
here's how to activate the fix:.
you must attempt to sign in using the email address associated with your account (not a username) and must have access to that mailbox.. if there are multiple accounts associated with the email address then you will be shown a warning message with the option to have an email sent to repair your account.. the email will contain a link to a page showing all the accounts associated with the same email address and allow you to select the one you want to be active (it will disassociate all the other accounts from the email address).. once you have completed the process then you should be able to sign in as normal.
Yes it worked. Thank you, thank you, thank you, so much. Your sight means the world to me. I do not know where I would be without it. I just cannot thank you enough. Thank you again.
LITS
i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.
i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.
did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?
I agree with Simon and flipper. I had listened to Dateline with Barbara Anderson in 2002 but I convinced myself it was not really true, that it happened only in her area and she much have misunderstood it, etc. It was not until I saw pedophiles in my hall myself that I believed it. If someone had been in my face telling me that it was a cult as did happen it just made me more sure it was the "truth". But it was seeing as flipper said injustices myself that I woke up.
So with me I totally agree that gentle way is so much better than the blow horns and yelling in front of the Kingdom. I know I have been told that I need to do that but it just turned me off when I was in and I try to treat people like I want to be treated.
And a huge shout out to this sight Simon and thoes like flipper and Mrs. flipper who helped me so much reallize I was not crazy and gave me so much encouragement. I do not know what I would have done or where I would be now with out this place to come and read and know I am not alone.
LITS
i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.
never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.
is it just used in america?.
Used all the time here in the Northwest, even when starting meetings and conventions. The brother on the stage will say friends lests take our seats.
LITS
it seems the gb is trying to give the jws a more modern, friendly image.
new website, new logo, cartoons for instructing children, literature carts, slimmed-down books and magazines, etc.
yet on the other hand they delete some of the things many jws enjoy most: the book study in private homes, congregation picnics and large get-togethers, private group watchtower study sessions, colorful socks for men, denim dresses for women etc.
I think Giordano nailed it in his post.
LITS
apologies if this has been asked before, but i couldn't find a thread where the focus was specifically this yes-or-no question.
reach back in your memories to when you were at the peak of your faith in the religion, and tell me honestly:.
"did you, personally, believe that non-witnesses would die at armageddon, even if they hadn't gotten to hear the message at all?".
It really, really brothered me but I was like jwfacts that it was what we were taught so it had to be true. That is why it brothered me so much doing the pioneer shuffle, and driving around aimlessly and sitting in the car for hours, and hours, and hours while my elder husband was on calls that I was not allowed to join him in becuase I was just a stupid women who COULD NOT KNOW the important elder stuff that was going on. If it truly ment these peopoles lives we needed to tell them not drag our feet and waste time. But I got shot down and ridiculed by most of the JW's that I pioneered with for wanting to truly talk to people, which in turn made me so crazy.
LITS
it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.
by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.
but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.
I just read this and thought it was an interesting way to look at things. As so many have said we would not be who we are now if we had not gone through the JW expreance. Maybe it did make us stronger, I hope.
Every experience in your life is being orchestrated to teach you something you need to know to move forward. ~Brian Tracy
LITS
it's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.
by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.
but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.
I can totally relate also. I was in my mid 40's when I woke up. So many wated years that I would love to have back. Pioneering, Bethel, go to where the need was great, etc. Some days it is just hard to not be bitter.
LITS
as a child, i was made to believe that i loved my mom and family and close friends but that i loved no one more than jehovah god.
did you ever really love him?.
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I really, really wanted to and told everyone one I did because that was what I was supposed to do right?
But deep inside He never felt real. It was like I was praying to the air. I prayed my brains out and the only way things changed were when I did something to make them change. I tried and tried to say it was Jehovah who did this or that for me but in reality it was because I worked and did what I could to make this or that happen.
Like I was raised in the "truth" in a very abusive home. I prayed and prayed and prayed as a child, got on my knees and begged, pleading with Jehovah to help me with my parents so they would love me. To feel like I mattered to someone. I was just a kid of 8,9 years of age. I got nothing. No one stepped in though everyone knew my parents were abusing me. I have been told that now as an adult by the older ones in the hall that they knew. Yet not one did a thing to help me. And Jehovah never used them when He could have.
So no I never did love Jehovah because he never seemed real.
LITS
anybody remember hearing this?.
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is that comment in print anywhere?.
A elderly sister just said this at the meeting less than two months ago and she totally belives it.
LITS
i think that many of them were saints.
some were bitches and others seemed like they hated their status.
many wives were very good examples and were more "qualified" than their elder husbands.. .
I married an elder. It was beyond horrible, it was pure HELL. I never saw my husband we did not have a marriage as he was alwasys gone. Spent my second year anniversary sitting in the car until 12:00 am and then was told I needed to go over to another elders wives home who HATED ME and I stayed there until 2:00 am with this elders wife pissed off at me for being there. Than my husband and I got into a huge fight on the way home because I had planned a nice evening evening to celebarte our anniversary together which was ruined now but my husband told me that I married an elder and just to get used to sitting in the car forever. We never made up for the lost night of our anniversary it just became another day of the year after that. Found out years latter that my husband had spent the night holding the hand of this old bitty of a sister with another elder. This women knew it was our anniversary and was trying to cause problems in our marriage she admitted it to me. I was just blown away as to WHY??? The people in the hall were so mean.
Elder's meetings were pure HELL also as I was never invited into any of the clicks of the elders wives. There would always be two to three groups of women huddled together gossiping and when I walked up they would all just stop and stare at me untill I left. They all did things together and I was NEVER included. Than when the elders would come out of their big important meeting this one idiot would say are you elderites ready to leave. I was one of the only wives who worked and sometimes we would not get home until 12:00 or 1:00 in the morning I would be so mad and worked up that I could not get to sleep and then I had to be up at 5:00 for work.
One time my husband had an major heart attack the morning of the school and service meeting. His first heart attack they had him back up conducting within three days of his getting home from the hospital. My husband always was given the worst assigments that none of the other elders wanted and he was always the school overseer. Well I called the CoBE'w wife on my way to the hosiptal and told her my husband would not be at the meeting that evening as he was having a heart attack. This elder's wife told me "What do you want me to do? I can't help you as I have to go out in service today."
I told the CO in our first year of marriage that I was totally losing it and he was so ticked off at me and told me that Jehovah needed my husband now I could have my husband in the new system.
If I could go back I would never stand to be treated the way I was. Plus I could not do anything, my job would have paid for me to take collage class which I could not because I had to set the example, I could not go running because it upset so many in the hall that I was putting my body to such a use. I could as an elders wife I should be using my time in field service not doing something I enjoyed. You name it was I was told it.
LITS